Limits of Strongman Training

May 15, 2009 on 7:44 pm | In Strength Training | 8 Comments

Hello coach Hashey, I wonder why strongmen/strongwomen still need to do gym lifts (squat/deadlift/curl…with barbell/dumbbell…) while they got most/all implements (log, yoke…) to practice with? Why don’t they train with the implements alone?    Thank you.

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Thanks for the question.  I truly enjoy strongman training.  It is fun, competitive, effective, and much more!  Please keep in mind, I use strongman exercises for athletic development.  In other words, these movements need to prove that they have a use for increasing athleticism, and not primarily for increasing the lifts themselves (ie, competing in strongman competitions).

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I would categorize myself as somewhat of a training “centrist.”  Too often a new training style comes on board, and lots of inexperienced trainers jump on board as it being the greatest thing.   Unfortunately all training styles have their limitations.

For example, there has been a movement against olympic lifts, primarily because their limitation is that the movement pattern is tough to learn.  Does that mean we shouldn’t olympic lift anymore like some trainers will say?  Not necassarily. Depends on your athletes and your time available.  No need to swing fully away from a valuable training tool.

A similar situation has occurred with strongman training.  It is getting immensely popular, and rightfully so.  Strongman training gets people moving in multiple planes of motion, utilized many muscles groups, and seems to have a quality carry over to athletics.   However, I would not solely perform strongman movements.

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There are limitations to strongman equipment and training, and areas where gym equipment can be helpful.  Gym equipment is great for addressing weaknesses. Let’s say the weakness in your stone lift is your biceps and forearms. Can you hit those by just doing stone lifts? Not efficiently, because it is tough to micro load a stone lift and concentrate on weaknesses.

Gym equipment can be easily loaded, measured, and adapted to perform tons of movements.  I’m not ready to bail on those huge positive aspects!

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I agree strongman should use their primary movements mostly for strongman lifts, however gym weights can help out supplement training significantly.  Combine them both effectively and get huge results!

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF STRONGMAN AND GYM LIFTS?  POST IT UP IN THE COMMENTS!

- Joe Hashey, CSCS -

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  1. I have recently began competing in Strongman, and I still use gym lifts to correct weaknesses such as my puny biceps, grip, etc. Excellent Article!

    Comment by Chris — May 15, 2009 #

  2. Nice Chris, thanks for the comments, when are you competing next? Best of luck with your work.

    Everyone could use more grip!

    Joe

    Comment by Admin: Joe Hashey, CSCS — May 15, 2009 #

  3. I’ve started using strongman events in my training as well. I think with any type of training you have to have a strength base. If you jump into strongman training and never perform any gym lift, there is no way to improve upon the strongman events. I think it’s the same way with gym lifts. Sometimes, to get stronger, you have to go outside the norm or outside your usual routine and lifts. If you watch any of the pro strongmen train, they spend just as much time in the gym as they do event training. That should give us some idea about how important balance is.

    Comment by Josh — May 15, 2009 #

  4. Josh, excellent points. If you have no strength and get on the business end of an atlas stone, farmers walk handles, tire, or anything like that, you will come away with an injury, and no gains.

    Well Said.
    Joe

    Comment by Admin: Joe Hashey, CSCS — May 16, 2009 #

  5. Strongman Training is the ONLY type of training that EVERYONE should do… all the time, no matter what sport you play or how old you are!

    Badminton players need to load 300lb Atlas Stone, Fencers also have a GREAT need for the ability to press 275lb logs… this just makes sense, right?!?!

    Look even my 4 year old daughter is a strongman:
    http://www.hulsestrength.com/strongman-training-for-kids-or-just-my-kid/.html

    Lets all just be honest here folks, all other training modalities SUCK ;)

    Comment by Elliott Hulse — May 16, 2009 #

  6. You don’t think Elliot is a little biased because he happens to be one of those Pro Strongmen I was talking about do ya? Haha.

    Josh

    Comment by Josh — May 16, 2009 #

  7. Ha, well said Elliott, but isn’t this you ruling supreme over a bunch of people doing….gulp…abdominal training and crunches?!?!

    http://www.sptimes.com/2008/02/10/images/large/NeighN_Spande_2516605.jpg

    Haha, damn google.

    Strongman does rule.

    Comment by Admin: Joe Hashey, CSCS — May 16, 2009 #

  8. Uuuh… Ummm, well what that exactly is – is that well, we were just… you know, doing some, like strongman stuff that just like, only the best strongmen in poland and ah… norway do – yea! So, you probably wouldn’t know anything about that. OK?

    haha!

    Comment by Elliott Hulse — May 17, 2009 #

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